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Church Membership, Adding “P” to LGBT, Matt Chandler & Prophecy, Open Phones

Another Skype-based program from Evergreen, Colorado.  Looked briefly at the reaction to a church pruning its membership rolls, then read a portion of Douglas Wilson’s article on adding “P” to LGBT. Then considered the concept of “prophecy” in Matt Chandler’s recent sermon, and then took calls on various topics such as the resurrection of the saints in Matthew 27 and Jehovah’s Witnesses and the spirit of man.  Lord willing, will be home on Monday, so the schedule should return to something “normal” for August.

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California’s Totalitarianism, Then Calls on Racialism, JWs, OT Scholarship, and Much More

Started off discussing AB 2943 in California and the moral and ethical insanity consuming our society.  Then we went to calls with the first on the subject of racialism, then discussions of Jehovah’s Witnesses, OT scholarship, and many other topics.  80 minute program.

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The Dividing Line is on YouTube video. Our YouTube channel also provides videos of most of the debates that Dr. White has done over the years. Take some time and browse it to see if there is something there of interest to you. If you are looking for the next upcoming show be sure to subscribe to the blog as we post show announcements the morning of the show.

The Difference in Jesus’ Divine Role Does NOT Indicate Inferiority of Nature

There is a frequent assumption, and/or misunderstanding, that unbelievers frequently expresss about the Trinity. As a believer you should be aware of this. James White on occasion says:

Difference in function does not indicate inferiority of nature.

For many who deny the Trinity or the deity of Jesus, it is thought that since Jesus fulfilled a lesser (subordinate) role in his incarnation compared to that of the Father, Jesus must therefore posses a lesser nature.

Those who oppose the deity of Christ often point to Jesus’ submissive remarks about doing the will of his Father. For example, Jesus says, “the Father is greater than I am.” They infer from this that Jesus does not share the same nature with the Father. But this is confusing categories. It ignores the broader context that is talking about their relational roles, not their nature.

Jesus also calls the Father, “My God.” Yet those who oppose the deity of Christ ignore that this is a humble acknowledgment of the incarnate Jesus modeling for us humility and submissiveness (John 20:17). This exalting-affirmation is what we would expect from the Son of God.

Similarly, it is argued, since Jesus is the agent of the Father in many respects such as creation, Jesus cannot be fully God. Regarding the Spirit, they will make the similar false assumption. Since the Spirit is sent by the Father, the Spirit cannot have the same divine nature as the Father. They will look at these statements and make the fallacious leap that difference in function indicates inferiority of nature.

They also deny the freedom of the Divine persons to choose their roles. Or to put it another way: they assume that to be truly God, the Son and the Spirit must have the exact same roles as the Father in order to share in the same nature.

A simple, but effective, illustration will show that difference in function does not indicate inferiority of nature: A husband and wife—as well as children!—will posses different roles in a marriage. Wives are to take on the submissive role, yet this does not indicate that difference in function requires inferiority of nature. Does the wife have a lesser nature than that of the husband? Not according to Christian anthropology. They are both fully human.

Let’s praise God for the incarnation, which itself presupposes a submissive role that brought about our salvation. We do not worship a unipersonal-unitarian God, but worship instead a complementary-trinitarian God.
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A Tip on Getting Jehovah Witnesses to Take Your Literature

Jehovah Witnesses have been trained to refuse any literature when they are out witnessing. They simply will not take what you want to offer them.

However, there is one thing they will take…and that is your phone number.  And there lies your strategy.

Toward the very end (not beginning or middle) of your conversation with them, ask them if they would be willing to meet again to talk. Typically they will say ‘yes.’ Then immediately take the initiative and take out of your pocket a tract or other piece of evangelistic literature and write your name and phone number on the back of the tract, and give it to them asking them to be sure to call you for a follow up meeting.

Don’t ask them if they will take it. Just give it to them and say goodbye.

Be prepared beforehand to have a tract and pen ready for the end of your conversation. This tactic may not always work, but it will sometimes.

It is a strategy that God may just use to save their soul.