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Arminian Presuppositional Apologetics?

07/30/2010 - Jamin Hubner

Just as an aside, I finished downloading the ESV Audio Bible ("Hear the Word") narrated by David Heath. Other than something like flashcards, I'm not sure what other invention man can come up with to better assist mass-Scripture memory. I've done a number of narration contract jobs for various advertising purposes, and I know what goes into good narration (I've even attempted my own audio Bible at one point). Heath's work is excellent, and I find it much more comfortable to listen to for long periods than a more dramatic and eccentric voice like Max McLean.


On the less exciting side, the mishandling of presuppositional apologetics continues. Glenn Hendrickson has a decent response here. Essentially, Arminians are presenting presuppositional apologetics without either (a) presenting the primary sources of the debate, and pretending the basics of presuppositional apologetics (and dozens of direct quotes by Bahnsen) are their own ideas, or (b) pretending as if Arminianism can peacefully and productively co-exist with presuppositional apologetics.


It can't. Granted, thinking presuppositionally is quite flexible. For example, Paul Copan in his excellent book True For You But Not For Me comes from the Bill Craig/classicalist line of thought, and yet demonstrates "thinking presuppositionally" - addressing people's worldview and presuppositions in a way the leaves the skeptic challenged. However, one cannot avoid the fact that presuppositional apologetics emerges from Reformed theology in at least two major respects.


First is the rejection of natural theology. The unbeliever has knowledge of God, but due to his depravity (the first point of Calvinism TULIP) he suppresses it. The classical arguments will never suffice for the same reason 66 books of evidence won't suffice: he's spiritually dead, and he needs to be shown his bias against God before gaining a proper orientation of life. Without the Calvinist/biblical teaching of depravity, one could adhere to classicalism as much as presuppositionalism regarding this central issue.


Second is the absolute sovereignty of God and Lordship of Christ coupled with sola scriptura. Classical apologetics is built from a Roman Catholic foundation that does not require that a believer (a) develop an apologetic method from Scripture or (b) begin with Scripture to engage in apologetics. Both are distinctive of presuppositional apologetics. In short, presuppositional Arminians (ie Kerrigan Skelly, Tim Chaffey, etc.) are simply unaware of their inconsistency, and need to come into grips with the fact that our theology gives rise to our apologetic methodology. If that can be admitted, it is clear that only presuppositional apologetics fits Reformed theology - that is, only biblical apologetics fits biblical theology.



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Lou Ruggiero on His New Book

04/06/2010 - James White

Some of you remember the "debate" with "Lou Rugg" of PalTalk fame:



Lou is very big on self-promotion. Sometime last year he was talking about how his new book would "crush" me, etc. I have yet to see this book, but he promises us that, eventually, Calvinism will be vanished from the face of the earth through his personal brilliance and insight. So today Lou IM'd one of our channel regulars with these messages:

LouRugg_777: White gets humiliated with his Pharaoh position

LouRugg_777: I expose him so badly he should dig himself a hole and hide

LouRugg_777: The Potter's Freedom will have no credibility after this whole thing is over

Well there you go. If you are looking for a humility-based book destroying Reformed theology, I'm sure Lou Rugg's work will be just what the doctor ordered. :-)

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Dave Hunt on Romans 9: Tradition-Driven Eisegesis Once Again

04/05/2010 - James White

   The Berean Call put out their monthly newsletter a few days ago, and I could not help but noticing the following paragraph. If you are not intimately familiar with the argument of Romans 9, and especially its insistence that the choice of Jacob and the rejection of Esau was not in any way, shape, or form, based upon the actions of Jacob or Esau, foreseen or otherwise, but was instead based solely upon God's "purpose in election," you might wish to review the text before reading this tradition-laden means of getting around the text:
Regarding Romans 9:19, we know that it is not wise to single out one verse apart from full context. The issue of Jacob and Esau and their being loved or hated by God before their birth has occupied more than one discussion throughout history. If one confines the argument to portions of Romans 9, it does sound like God arbitrarily selects some for salvation and others for damnation, but Romans 9 does not occur in a vacuum, and the rest of Scripture furnishes the balance. God's foreknowledge enters into the equation at this point. Some theologians have stated that it would be accurate to translate the passage, "Jacob have I chosen, but Esau have I rejected." Specifically, in the case of Esau, the implication of "rejected" is a judgment based upon knowledge of his actions. God, who declares "the end from the beginning," (Isaiah 46:10) knew, before they were born, the course each child would take.

   1) How many times people have rebelled against this truth over the course of church history is, of course, irrelevant to the biblical teaching itself.
   2) Whenever you find someone (and Dave Hunt has made a living off of this) going to the "rest of Scripture" argument before exegeting the text in context, you know you have found someone's tradition.
   3) Notice that in essence this paragraph admits that, contextually speaking, if you just let Romans 9 speak for Romans 9, it teaches God's sovereignty (misidentified as "arbitrary" when, in fact, it is based upon the good pleasure of God's will, His eternal purpose, which is anything but arbitrary).
   4) Whenever you find anyone from the Berean Call citing un-named "scholars," beware. Remember, these are the same folks who drew from a Yahwist cult to try to get around Acts 13:48, suggesting that the first fifteen chapters of Acts were written in Hebrew!
   5) There is no doubt that "chosen/rejected" is part of the meaning of the text, but there are plain, easily chosen words that have those meanings, and Paul did not use them. Loved and hated are words with meanings. People may not like what they mean, but that does not change their meaning.
   So compare, then, the words of Scripture with the words of the Berean Call and remember, once again, the grave error enunciated by Dave Hunt nearly a decade ago now, "James, I have no traditions."
Scripture states: though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad---in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls---(Romans 9:11)

But the Berean Call says,
Specifically, in the case of Esau, the implication of "rejected" is a judgment based upon knowledge of his actions. God, who declares "the end from the beginning," (Isaiah 46:10) knew, before they were born, the course each child would take.

   The result? Paul's entire argument is turned on its head. How much more plainly can the Apostle state "and had not yet done anything good or bad"? But, when wedded to a tradition that you refuse to see, even the plain words on the page cannot dissuade you from pursuing your goals. Another great example provided by the folks up at the Berean Call.

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Ephesians 1:11 and Bible Translation

03/26/2010 - James White

   Yesterday's encounter with Dr. Michael Brown was very interesting. My goal had been to provide an opportunity for the listeners to compare and contrast the exegesis of the text offered by both sides of this important issue. While that was accomplished to some extent, what ended up happening was more of a contrast of differing methods of exegesis itself, which surprised me. If we had been discussing, say, the resurrection, or the deity of Christ, I doubt there would be any difference at all in the approach. There is value, of course, in this observation, as I have always said that consistency is vital, and if your methodology differs from topic to topic, this is a sign of the intrusion of an extra-biblical tradition. I leave that to the listener to decide.
   In any case, the contrast was strongest in our discussion of John 6, followed by Romans 8-9, and was the least divergent in our discussion of Ephesians 1. But in each situation, an over-riding concept became the norm of interpretation, a concept I believe derived not from the contextual exegesis of the text itself. This was especially the case in reference to John 6, where I do not believe a contextual exegesis was offered by Dr. Brown. Likewise, the "corporate election" concept over-rode the direct words of Ephesians 1 as well, in my opinion.
   Next week will be even more problematic, for Dr. Brown has chosen texts that are not overly disputed on the exegetical level. What they mean is not really difficult to determine. The issue is the application of the text in a systematic way. And while such discussions are useful, it will not fulfill my specific goal for an explicitly exegetical discussion. Instead, we will have to move away from the specific texts to larger areas of interaction, which is pretty much what we did on Dr. Brown's show as well. So, when we talk about the "all" passages the question will not be "what does the text say" but "does 'all' always have a universal application," which it clearly does not, of course. Or if we talk about 1 John 2:2, the issue will not be "does this teach that Jesus' death is propitiatory" but "what does propitiation mean" and "does emphasis upon the extent of the atonement indicate it is intended to propitiate the wrath of God against every single human individual, past, present, and future?" Likewise, in dealing with Ezekiel 18 the question will not be "what does the text say" as much as "do we have warrant to take this text and extend it to a canon-wide concept that overthrows the plain teaching that God's decree will be accomplished and He will be glorified therein?"
   A few things caught my attention yesterday, though I did not comment on them at the time (we really had to focus given the time limits). One was Dr. Brown's comments on Ephesians 1:11. What struck me, and others, was his use of the Message and the New Living Translation as supports for his denial that this text encompasses the entirety of God's sovereign decree. Their "rendering" (I use the term loosely) of the text are as follows: ...
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Format for Thursday's Debate with Dr. Michael Brown

03/22/2010 - James White

   For those interested, we will be covering three texts of Scripture on Thursday: John 6, Romans 8/9, and Ephesians 1. Each will have 8 minutes to provide their exegesis of the text; then we will have four minutes of cross-ex each, then three minute conclusions before moving on to the next text. I know, not a lot of time, but that still covers 90 full minutes (we will not be taking any breaks at all).
   The following Thursday we will repeat the process, but this time covering Michael's chosen texts, Luke 13:34-35 (Deut 5:28-29) Ezek 18:21-32 (Jer 3:19-20; Ezek 22:30-31) I John 2:1-2 (2 Pet 2:1).
   Remember, to make room for Michael's program (which cannot, like the DL, be moved around at will), we will be starting at 10am our time (1pm EDT).

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A Quick Note from Gate A25

03/13/2010 - James White

On my way to Leavenworth, Kansas for this weekend's conference, but fired up the MacBook long enough to get my mail. Not only did another loving missive from Peter Lumpkins come through, but I was directed to what can only amount to his published response of my documentation of his false accusations. Personally, I think this speaks volumes about the level of "dialogue" amongst many when it comes to the substance of their argumentation against Reformed theology. Watch for yourself.

With that, I am...finished dealing with anything Peter Lumpkins has to say.

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God and Evil: The Trauma of Sovereignty

03/09/2010 - James Swan

I'm not particularly keen on reinventing wheels. Part of the fortunate heritage of the Reformed worldview is that much better minds than mine have studied the Biblical text, then formulated its information into concise doctrinal statements. Of course the statements are only as good as the verses they're based on. For instance, chapter three of the Westminster Confession of Faith states:
God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass:[1] yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin,[2] nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.[3]

1. Psa. 33:11: Eph. 1:11: Heb. 6:17
2. Psa. 5:4; James 1:13-14; I John 1:5; see Hab. 1:13
3. Acts 2:23; 4:27-28: Matt. 17:12; John 19:11; Prov. 16:33

If one were going to dispute this statement, it shouldn't be by philosophic speculation, tradition, or an emotional feeling. It should be done by proving the Biblical texts used don't support the statement being made. Such though typically isn't the case. The counter charge often begins with the assertion that Reformed theology turns God into a puppet master and the author of evil. The ingredient said to be missing is free will. It's touted that by adding free willto a biblical summary statement, a completely different view of sovereignty emerges, one which absolves God of being the author of evil and provides humanity with true freedom. Some go as far to say that the God of Reformed theology is far from Biblical.
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The Trinity on the Janet Mefferd Show

03/04/2010 - James White

   I had a great time on the Janet Mefferd Show yesterday, discussing the nature of the Trinity. Even had a Jewish apologist caller, which proved interesting. You can listen to Janet's show here.

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Is 1 John 5:10 Relevant to the Ordo Salutis and 1 John 5:1/2:29, and 4:7?

03/01/2010 - James White

An evidently anti-Reformed textual critic has posted a brief criticism of using 1 John 5:1 as a text relevant to the ordo salutis and in particular to the relationship of saving faith and regeneration (though both terms appear in the text). Anyone who knows the identity of this blogger please let me know, I'd be interested in knowing. I have seen his material linked on the Evangelical Textual Criticism list. In any case, here is my response.



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1 John 5:1, Exegesis, Regeneration and Saving Faith, and Brian Brodersen

02/26/2010 - James White



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