Dr. White describes his debate with Richard Hopkins, who had converted from liberal Protestantism to a liberal stream of Mormonism and now teaches at BYU. The debate was supposed to be on Justification, but Hopkin’s liberal view required White to also describe the typical LDS view of works and “grace”. Also, normally, the team would also pass out flyers outside of the conference, but Dr. White explains the spectrum of strange groups that now protest in a rather distracting way.

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