For years Manuel Culwell has called the Dividing Line. Most of the time, in the past, when we have tried to dialogue, things went south…quickly.  Then, a few months ago, we had a fairly controlled discussion, so I suggested then that at some point we choose some texts and discuss them.  Well, it took a while, but today Manuel called in and we had our discussion.  It takes up the first 45 minutes of the program.  Then I replied to Derek Frank’s second post on FaceBook in “response” to me, pointing out that, well, he seems to think that assertion, and argument, are equivalent things (they are not).

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