In this radio debate that includes callers, James White takes a cessationist position arguing that the indwelling of the Spirit happens at conversion, and Bernard, who is a Oneness Pentecostal, argues that the baptism of the Holy Spirit is indicated by tongues. Dr. White draws out the implication that Bernard is unable to see justification as a past event, but as a process.
Alpha and Omega Ministries is a Christian apologetics organization based in Phoenix, Arizona. James White, director, is a professor, having taught Greek, Systematic Theology, and various topics in the field of apologetics for numerous schools.