(Fixed the audio: YouTube and iMovie HD do not like each other, evidently, so I have to take a second very time consuming step to fix the problem. Hopefully this upload will work!)
Many thanks to WMG who sent me the AP article from 2002 that, it seems, yesterday’s AP article referred to in regards to Ergun Caner’s honest communication of his story (minus the embellishments that have accrued since then). The sad thing here is, this is a touching and powerful story, which has now been forever marred by the attraction of
As soon as I got into my car after spending over five hours on Mt. Lemmon outside of Tucson last Wednesday, I got a call requesting me to speak with an AP reporter on the Caner saga. So as I was driving across Tucson (note to Tucson: you really, really need an East/West corridor aka freeway. Really) I was on
I knew a few folks were working on this, but just now TurretinFan posted the results of his examination of the yearbooks from Gahanna Lincoln High School, 1981-1984. Click here for photos and documentation. As one would expect, Ergun Caner looks like any other kid who grew up in Ohio in the 1970s and early 1980s. In fact, he and
I ask that our regular readers work through this short piece, especially those of you who are tired of a particular subject. I wish to make an appeal to you. I mentioned yesterday that the “nastiness” level spiked. Ironically, the very people who have been screaming about how wrong it is for Christians to “cooperate” with Muslims are—themselves repeating Muslim
I am uncertain how many times I’ve said this, but I’ll say it again: there are lots of fine professors, scholars, and students, at Liberty University. Lots of godly men and women, lots of dedicated students. Even a lot of Calvinists, believe it or not (who, in God’s sovereign providence, are learning patience the hard way). So I found it
Hussein Wario is a former Muslim. He has decided to take up not so much a defense of the Caners (he has, so far, only defended minor points—he has so far mainly ignored the legal documentation that has been provided and the issues that data raises) but to use the “attack the messenger” methodology of argumentation. In the process I
Today on the DL I started off by playing some clips from a debate featuring Sheikh Awal, one of my opponents in Dearborn next month. I went over his claim that portions of the NT were written by Constantine at Nicea, and his claim that the great uncial manuscripts, Sinaiticus, Vaticanus, and Alexandrinus, were written in the twelfth century! This
So that is yours truly yesterday morning on the 26 mile ride to the top of Mt. Lemmon outside of Tucson, Arizona. I had been planning this since last fall when I rode up (but not back down) Mt. Lemmon. Some good friends from Tucson accompanied me (via car) and took some shots (I posted one of the shots from
The first half of our program today comprised a debate report from Clearwater, going over my recollections of the key issues in the discussion with Dr. Robert Price. After the break I briefly commented on the Jennifer Knapp situation, hoping to have the opportunity to produce a video going over her errant biblical claims later this week. Then we went
An Open Letter to Dr. Jerry Falwell Jr. and Dr. Ron Godwin, Liberty University Greetings In February of 2010 I contacted Dr. Ergun Caner to ask him to please explain inconsistencies in his publicly made statements regarding his debates with Islamic leaders, specifically, in reference to his (at least) twice made claim that he had debated Sheikh Shabir Ally. I
Committee formed to investigate Caner statements May 10, 2010 : University Advancement staff Liberty University’s Provost Dr. Ron Godwin is forming a committee to investigate a series of accusations against Ergun Caner, president of Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary. The allegations have questioned public statements Caner has made regarding the details of his personal life story. Godwin is forming a committee
Just a few quick notes, as the day after long trips that end very, very long weeks of ministry including debates are normally spent catching up on life. Yes, tomorrow I will go over the Price debate in more detail. Here’s a picture of us at the “book signing table” after the debate. Note that he is wearing the tie
I am speaking again this morning so I have to be brief. Just wanted to thank all the Lord’s people for their prayers for last night’s debate with Dr. Robert Price here in Tampa. I could not imagine how the debate could have gone any better than it did. I knew Bob Price would be a personable fellow in conversation,
In ‘Is the Bible True’, James White and Robert Price battle on a wide-ranging, fast-paced front. White challenges Dr. Price’s skepticism, treatment of the Biblical text, and approach to history; while Dr. Price concentrates on claims of contradiction, Greek influence on Jewish culture, and his views on the reliability of Scripture. The examination is quick and meaty, and the argumentation
We don’t get to see our friend Angel Contreras very often in channel anymore. He’s busy with…life. But, once in a while, right when I need some encouragement, some relief from a particularly troubling episode (and that is the case right now with the Caner and now Liberty debacle, all immediately prior to a major debate), up pops an e-mail
As of this writing, Mohammad Khan’s YouTube account has been suspended. Thankfully, some of the most important documentation of Ergun Caner’s status as a myth-maker and self-promoter is found elsewhere on YouTube, but I have a feeling those are on “the list” as well. I found out about this live, during the DL today, from Denver. I had been discussing
A sad day for truth as Christianity Today posts its “story” on the Ergun Caner situation. Very little of the actual documentation (court documents, video tapes, etc.) are discussed. The title makes it look like “bloggers” are just out to cause trouble, not that there are documented, serious issues relating to Caner’s myth-making. The worst part is the utter-disconnect in
Greetings from the Mile High City. About to grab a ride with some brothers here in the area, and as I’m preparing I have had the Today Show on. Two items from the media, and one other story that has been sent to me a number of times that illustrates how twisted Western Culture is becoming in its hatred of
Looking at Ergun Caner’s glasses in the preceding article reminded me of my own spectacles from the early 1980s. What WERE we thinking anyway? Well, here’s an example I just ran across on Twitter. I didn’t know this was available on line, but, here it is! A Marian debate with Robert Fastiggi from…back when I sported a full beard, had
So a former Southeastern seminary student (who shall, for his own health and welfare and peace of mind, remain anonymous), sent me a shot of his yearbook. You will notice the Caner brothers were students at the school together, which is consistent with their story. But what is intriguing is the hometown listed for both of them: Stockholm, Sweden. That
My friend David Wood provides an excellent example of the historical problem of Islam. I hope to be joining David on Jesus or Muhammad in June around the same time I debate a Shia Muslim Imam in the area, but as I noted a few days ago regarding the Christopher Hitchens debate, we need your help to make it happen.
James Swan pointed out that Catholic Answers is running a new banner ad in their forums: I confess, I wonder how many of Catholic Answers supporters have started to wonder, “Hey, why doesn’t this ministry I support do formal public debates anymore? I mean, this isn’t even a debate, it’s a radio program from 1995…fifteen full years ago.” Yes, and
We went over the entirety of Ergun Caner’s testimony played on Monday’s Focus on the Family broadcast on the program today. Given how this story is moving into a national platform outside of the Christian community, at least there will be documentation that 1) serious and open attempts were made to call for accountability, and 2) the intentions of those
The following comment was posted in reference to my appearance on the Line of Fire radio program with Dr. Michael Brown yesterday. My response follows. I usually enjoy your program, but today was an exception. Hearing Dr White speak, I was reminded of the Jews during the ministry of Jesus, those who would mock Jesus because He was not what
Tom Chantry has provided a rather lengthy, but very well written and thoughtful discussion of the Ergun Caner situation. Unlike most of what you read in the blogosphere, it has flow and style. You can start here, but be prepared to do something early 21st century people rarely do: invest more than 45 seconds on one topic! Chantry nails the
Two tremendous opportunities have opened up for ministry in just a few months. But we need your help. First, we have gotten a positive response from Christopher Hitchens for a debate on Long Island in August. We are hoping it will be around the time of the John 10:16 Conference, however, it might have to be late August instead. I
Started off with Matthew Bellisario and some other various stories, moving into a review of William Lane Craig’s recent anti-Reformed comments and his “keep the bar as low as possible” method of evangelism comments on Moody Radio. Then we talked about Dave Hunt’s flipping of Romans 9 on its head. Finally, we took a good bit of time to review
Jamin Hubner has an excellent discussion concerning this amazing quotation from William Lane Craig on the Janet Parshall Show: Let me first make a point, Chris, that I’ll hope you’ll understand, and that is I don’t try to prove the inerrancy of Scripture to a nonbeliever. I think Scriptural inerrancy is a Christian doctrine that someone comes to believe after
Of course, other things could intrude upon my thinking between now and then, but right now, there are a few items I want to get to. First an announcement, secondly a humorous item, finally a really important item. Next Wednesday I will be joining Michael Brown on his radio program. No, no debates this time: they have recently gone on
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